Anyway there is now Vocal Pitch editing in Reason 9 for the first time. I already have Melodyne Essential as part of Sonar and I bought an old version of Melodyne years ago when it was called something else so I know I have access to vocal editing. I like to program everything myself except I will gladly use percussion Loops if they are available alongside programmed Drum Parts. So thousands of Loops don't really interest me as I wouldn't use them. I don't use Loops at all except for percussion Loops.
The only question is do I get Mixcraft 8 or Mixcraft Pro 8. I have decided to buy Mixcraft this week.